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RE: Net Express 5.1 in Widows 7 - compilation error

May 30, 2016, 8:46 am
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Hello,

Myplanet

I was using Net Express (version 5.101.0074) in Windows server 2008. Now I hae installed the same version in windows 7.

Net Express 5.101.0074 (or 5.1 Update 1) is not certified on neither Windows Server 2008 nor Windows 7. You will need to apply at least Update 4 to be certified on these versions of Windows.

I recommend to apply the latest update, which is Update 12. Please take note that Update 6 is a requirement for Update 12. In other words, you need to apply Update 6 first and then Update 12.

Myplanet

I'm opening Net Express from an Environment file. The environment file has environment variables (COBDIR,COBIDY,COBCPY) and the variables

I'm not sure what you mean by opening Net Express from an environment file, but I'll take it as a script to set environment variables.

Myplanet

SET LIB= Oracle client location and PATH. I do not know what LIB, PATH variables are for.

The LIB environment variable is where the Microsoft Linker looks for import and static libraries in .lib and .obj if they cannot be found in the current folder.

The PATH environment variable is where to look for and/or run executable programs, commands, or link libraries that are not found in the current folder.

Myplanet

I have mapped a network drive in which all the dependency files are present. When I give Show Copy file it picks up the respective copy book from the mapped network drive.

I trying to compile a project. When I press build all ,I'm getting the message "Checking dependencies for DEBUG\Project1.EXE" and after that it is not picking up all the included copybook in the project. It continues to rebuild but it is stuck after displaying following messages , it is not completing the compilation. please help

* Micro Focus COBSQL Integrated Preprocessor
* Net Express V5.1 Copyright (C)1984-2008 Micro Focus (IP) Limited.
* URN
* CSQL-I-008: Invoking prexml Preprocessor
Micro Focus Embedded XML/HTML Preprocessor
Version 5.1.0.1 Copyright (c) 1984-2008 Micro Focus (IP) Limited.

Please apply Net Express 5.1 Update 12 and see if the problem goes away.

Regards,

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RE: How install again Next Express on windows, when license has expired

May 30, 2016, 8:49 am
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I suggest contacting your local Micro Focus SupportLine to sort this out.

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How install again Next Express on windows, when license has expired

May 28, 2016, 6:41 pm
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When I bought the license of net express (developer and server for 10 users), I installed the developer, but later I did uninstall it, and lost the license. ¿How can I do to clean windows to reinstall again the developer license? I need some help with this subject.

Thank you for your time.

Juan Zarate.

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RE: How install again Next Express on windows, when license has expired

May 30, 2016, 9:05 am
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Is the second time that I have problem with this, but, don't worry, I can understand the position of Micro Focus, but is necessary that they understand that the license mechanism is not realistic, in  the real life the problem  are unpredictable.

When I bougth the product, I didn't knew anything of Java programming, and for this problem I did studied Java, and now I have a Account System with Java and MySql, because I had no other choice.

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RE: mfsort 114

June 1, 2016, 7:50 am
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A 114 error is normally attributed to a memory error of some kind. If you run the same mfsort statement using the same data files and the same environment variable settings consecutively and it fails one time but not the next then it is most likely something external on your system that is causing the 114. This could be caused by a number of different variables such as available memory, a bad network connection, disk I-O error, etc.

If you run the same mfsort statement using the same data and settings and always get the 114 error then it may be a problem with the data itself or even the command you are using.

After getting the 114 error is it creating an mfdebug.log file in the current directory?

What version of Net Express are you using?

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RE: mfsort 114

June 1, 2016, 8:35 am
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Hi,

Thanks for the reply .

The runtime version is 5.1 wp 4\5 but , 'Fortunately' the error did not occurred more.

However, I still have the file mfdebug.log:

NetExpress Exception Handler - 23/05/2016  17:58:38

\\172.30.108.10\bin\MFSORT.EXE caused an exception at address : 0x6005CFFE

Exception type - EXCEPTION_ACCESS_VIOLATION on Read. Address 0xC30DFA90

Registers:

EAX C30DFA90 EBX 3FCF05B0

ECX 3FCF05B0 EDX B005CF3F

DS  002B ESI 00000000

ES  002B EDI 08FE6DEF

FS  0053 GS  002B

CS  0023 EIP 6005CFFE

SS  002B ESP 0018FA78 EBP 0018FE64

Flags 00010216

Error occurred in : \\172.30.108.10\bin\cblrtss.dll, loaded at 0x60000000

CompanyName Micro Focus

FileDescription Micro Focus 32-bit RTS

FileVersion 17.418

LegalCopyright Copyright (C) 1984-2009 Micro Focus (IP) Limited.

OriginalFileName cblrtss.dll

ProductName Net Express 5.1

ProductVersion 5.104.0083

COBOL call stack:

extsm (obj program)

mfjsub (obj program)

Run-time : \\172.30.108.10\bin\cblrtss.dll, loaded at 0x60000000

CompanyName Micro Focus

FileDescription Micro Focus 32-bit RTS

FileVersion 17.418

LegalCopyright Copyright (C) 1984-2009 Micro Focus (IP) Limited.

OriginalFileName cblrtss.dll

ProductName Net Express 5.1

ProductVersion 5.104.0083

OS Information:

Windows NT 6.1 (Build 7601: Service Pack 1)

CPU: Intel Pentium Model 45 step 7, 16 processors

Available memory - 4194303 KB

Thanks

bye

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RE: mfsort 114

June 1, 2016, 8:51 am
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The mfdebug.log shows that the run-time file cblrtss.dll is from wrappack 4. You stated that the run-time is at wrappack 4/5. I am not sure what that means. I would recommend that you install the latest wrappack for both Net Express and Server 5.1 as the wrappack 4 is fairly old now.

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RE: mfsort 114

June 1, 2016, 9:10 am
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Ok,

I will do so.

Normally I'm using Micro Focus Net Express 5.1 WrapPack #12  or latest product like  Enterprise Developer 2.3\ Cobol Server  2.3, but on some server(especially by customers) have still 5.1 with wp 4.

We will update all the Cobol Runtime Server 2.3

thank

bye

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setup Server 5.1 for win

June 14, 2016, 9:01 am
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Hi,

on www.microfocus.com I find setup + updates of new products ( COBOL Server , Enterprise Developer , Enterprise Server ) to version 2.3 update 1 ,

I find setup + wrap pack for NetExpress and Server Express ( unix ),
but I cannot find the download for the Windows Runtime Micro Focus Server 5.1 setup and wrap pack.
Where are this product installer?

thank.
bye

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RE: setup Server 5.1 for win

June 14, 2016, 10:20 am
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The Server companion products for Net Express are listed under product name Server for COBOL. If you have current maintenance for the Server 5.1 product then you should see it listed. Only the Server for COBOL wrappacks are available for download from microfocus.com. These are the .msp files that can be installed over the base release product.

In order to get a link to download the full base release of the Server 5.1 product you will have to contact your Account Manager or open up a support incident with Customer Care.

Thanks.

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RE: SERVER for cobol vs SOA

June 15, 2016, 2:48 am
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Server for COBOL provides the standard runtime support for deployed COBOL applications.

Server for SOA adds the ability to deploy a COBOL application as a web services or a J2EE service.

Server for SOA applications are hosted within a specialised application environment we call Enterprise Server which is included as part of the SOA package.

The same functionality is now also available in Visual COBOL and which has been extended to offer RESTful web services support.

For pricing information, please contact me directly scot.nielsen@microfocus.com

Regards, Scot Nielsen

Product Manager - COBOL

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SERVER for cobol vs SOA

June 15, 2016, 1:06 am
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what is the difference between "Server for COBOL" , "Server for SOA"? also the list price? thank...
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RE: NetExpress 5.1 on Windows 10

June 30, 2016, 4:15 am
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RE: NetExpress 5.1 on Windows 10

June 30, 2016, 5:58 am
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The website found on solvusoft.com is not helpful at all. Their information regarding cblvios.dll is age-old. It's only promotion for their Windows "dll-tool".

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RE: NetExpress 5.1 on Windows 10

June 30, 2016, 6:23 am
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It sounds like one of the run-time files may be missing. Do you have the entire Server for COBOL 5.1 product installed and are your applications linked as dynamic?

Can you run any of the utilities from NX such as rebuild.exe or do you get the same error?

What wrappack level of NX 5.1 are you running? I would recommend that you use the latest wrappack which is 13. Even though NX 5.1 is not certified under Windows 10 the latest wrappack releases shouldn't have a problem, al least in my testing.

Running the procmon tool from SysInternals (now Microsoft) could give you more detail as to what file it cannot find.

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RE: NetExpress 5.1 on Windows 10

June 30, 2016, 6:34 am
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Have a look at the last fine post from Chris Glazier.

Additional some hints for the newer Windows operating systems: Our own application (32 Bit) developed with Net Express 5.1 on Windows 7 runs on Windows Server 2012 R2 and one first test on Windows 10 seemed to be ok. Our application is deployed together with the Micro Focus Server (runtime system for Net Express).

If your application is build similar i would suggest that you check the versions of Net Express and Micro Focus Server - they always should be on the same WrapPack level. The recent WrapPack 13 is available, may be it helps. At last have a look at 32-/64-bit issues.

Regards and good luck

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RE: NetExpress 5.1 on Windows 10

June 30, 2016, 9:05 pm
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Net Express and Windows 10 comes with a few challenges.

Some of the things I've had to do with our developers that run Windows 10:

Set the environment varaiable MFOLECL_NO_THREAD_INIT with a value of Y - We had to do this only on a few machines (Cause unkown)

Delete the nxdebug.~ds found under C:\Users\The Windows Username\Documents\Micro Focus\Net Express 5.1\WORKAREA - This resolves 114 errors when you hit a Debugbreak during animation and NetExpress wants to load the source code

Delete the HKEY_CURRENT_USER\SOFTWARE\Micro Focus\NetExpress\5.1 - This key recreates itself but you'd loose your preferences. This also can resolve 114 errors when breaking into animation.

What have you got in your manifest for your executable?

Does it support Windows 10 themes?

msdn.microsoft.com/.../bb773175(v=vs.85).aspx

If you upgrade to Windows 10 from an older version of Windows it corrupts the Net Express license.

These are a few things I have come across getting Net Express working on Windows 10.

Perhaps one of the above will resolve your problem.

Neil

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RE: NetExpress 5.1 on Windows 10

July 1, 2016, 1:38 am
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Hi Neil,

thank you very much for the information.

It would be very interesting what WrapPack level your are using. Please can you post it here?

At all others who are following this topic:

Keep in mind to distinguish between Net Express itself as the development product and the Micro Focus Server runtime. From the original post by "TomK" i think he was only talking about running executables on a Windows 10 end-user machine, not Net Express itself.

Regards, Torsten

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RE: NetExpress 5.1 on Windows 10

July 1, 2016, 2:27 am
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Net Express - We are running wrappacks from 6 - 12. - why the huge gap? When developers upgraded to Wndows 10 and something fails....the first response from Micro Focus is "You need to be on the latest wrappack" (Which  agree with).....so those end up running on the latest wrappack.

I run windows 10 and I'm on wrappack 6. I upgraded from Windows 7 to Windows 10 and was not a new install.

Our compile server however is sitting at wrappack 6 to match the customers environment.

Probably 90% of our developers run Windows 10 (it might even be 100%), others are probably on Windows 8.

In our production code that shipped to the customer we actually  set this "MFOLECL_NO_THREAD_INIT" in code.

In terms of the Micro Focus Server that our customers run on is based on wrappack 6. - To roll out any changes to the runtime is a massive task and not undertaken lightly. There are a lot of laws, processes, testing etc that would have to be undertaken by our customers to take any "fix" or changes.

Again there are other considerations that can effect deployment especially now UAC (User Access Control) is regarded as 'ON' on everybody machine. (We only support Windows 7 SP1 and higher, Server 2008 and higher as well as Azure)

I don't deploy under "Program Files"  (Unless they are Windows services - as they run elevated)

All my executables are manifested "asInvoker"

All my executables are compiled "Shared dynamic" therefore the runtime location is derived from the registry.

The runtime is deployed under "Program Files\CompanyName"

To roll out the Visual COBOL runtime will involve a years testing and will only happen on a product release.

To sum it up.....we have more problems or issues with Net Express, we don't have any issues with  Micro Focus Server or our application running under it.

Neil

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NetExpress 5.1 on Windows 10

May 6, 2016, 10:34 am
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We're running some legacy executables developed on NetExpress 5.1. They run under Windows 7. We are in the process of converting to another platform but need to keep these running until...

I'm testing on a Windows 10 machine and am getting a Load error from cblvios.dll that says

error code: 174, pc=0, call=1, ser=0 

174 Imported file not found(N:cblvios.dll)

Does anyone know what it's looking for? Any suggestions appreciated.

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